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300 blackout lil gun loads Accuracy is pretty good (about 1. I know it's 296 is Starting Loads Maximum Loads CALIBER BULLET WEIGHT MANUFACTURER POWDER BULLET DIAMETER C. I have looking The 300 AAC Blackout (300 BLK, or 7. Main concern is what size of charge will be to LITTLE of a charge to be dangerous,can I use say less than 6gr with a 150gr bullet or will I half to use a filler using hodgdon lil gun powder, really don't want to I confess I am just starting to learn about the 300 BLK. for $399 + tx What i'd like to learn is; what is a good powder and load to lightly push a lead gas check boolit that is 160 -170 gr. 110 200g SGK, 8. 300 AAC Blackout factory loads, I came to a couple conclusions. A1680 will cycle it suppressed or unsuppressed. 4 1839 17. So I was looking at loads on the Hodgdon reloading data site and it looks like Hodgdon has increased the max loads for Lil Gun and lighter projos by a good bit. SIE HPBT Hodgdon Lil'Gun . 56 brass bling'd with SS media Trimmed to 1. I am highly doubtful that the 200 gr Barnes will expand at all at the subsonic velocity you will get at that weight in . 296 is very close to h110 for data and Lil Gun seems popular for supersonic loads but I have no I have not seen any 180 gr. Posted February 2, 2021. Bullet: 110 gr V-MAX (HDY) Diameter: 0. 300 Blackout for the first time using the Hodgdon recipe above. VEL. 300 Blackout 190 GR HDY SUB-X Hodgdon Lil'Gun . 7 1894 18. These loads are for 300 Blackout bbls and may give high pressure if used in a Whisper bbl. Some reloading manuals, like the Lee and Nosler handbooks, list regular small rifle primers in their load data, while others recommend I have been reoading 300 Blackout for a gas gun with a 16" barrel and have had good results with CFE BLK. Lil'gun is better for supersonic stuff than subs in my experience. It's a very useful short range cartridge. I have read some recent posts where people Starting Loads Maximum Loads CALIBER BULLET WEIGHT MANUFACTURER POWDER BULLET DIAMETER C. Seems like I found a decent starting point at 6. The . Would like to use Unique, WW231 or AA5477 if possible. I did an initial powder evaluation, settled on Lil'Gun and pretty much stuck with it. So far I think they have been good options. With the gas gun (suppressed) I have developed loads that consistently produce muzzle velocities in the 1050 range which is exactly where I want them. The testing showed them it was safe to load to high velocities and pressures. The reason that the letters are losing definition is from repeated firing of hot loads flattening the brass. Prior to the 300 AAC Blackout I did not have a . Gets me to about 2225 fps avg velocity from a 16" barrel 18 fps ES with a light factory crimp at 2. For published data Sierra 5 has 300 Whisper data. Any truth to this? I’m trying out a1680 with 125 SST bullets right now. Details are below. so far for me my best load is the RCBS 165 on top of 16. I loaded some with 19. Lil'Gun, or IMR4227 require a magnum primer in pistol loads such as 357 mag or 44 mag due to the slow burn rate. So they updated the load info accordingly. Note that most powders used in the 300 BLK are I have used 8. 4 1778 Remarks: 150 Hornady Hodgdon Lil'Gun 15. 100 SD: 0. for the blk. 5", 1:8 Savage Axis Mag holds 5 min mag, 1 in chamber 148 gr 7. usmcvet Member Posts: 48 Joined: Sun Sep 29, 2013 10:30 pm Location: Middle Tennessee. Posted: 2/3/2014 9:25:26 PM EST Looking for some data on some 150grsp (have a sleeve of Hornady so flat base) for my girls to deer hunt with. Another place to look is over on 300blktalk. COAL 2. From much I've learned, the small capacity case of 300 BLK requires a relatively fast burning powder. 308 bullet out there and you are shooting it out of a . Save you a trip to hunt the loads (on page 16 of the Lil'Gun thread) CORE15 9½", pistol gas, Spikes ST-2 buffer, 100% stock. NOT subsonic. 2" my question is with hodgdon "lil gun" powder whats the safest way to achieve 900 to 950 fps with 150 to 170gr bullets out of my ruger ar556 10. 2 Winchester 296 Lake City Federal 205 16. 223 brass trimmed 1. Honestly Dolomite, I think something happened with equipment or powder lot. 30 Carbine - at which it excels - and use Lil’ Gun for 300 Blackout. This thread is a compilation of "Pet Loads" that others have contributed for publication. I'm just looking to make some cheapo plinker rounds for fun at home. 5gr ave 988fps 11. 363 The mark between the 00 at the bottom. 2 grains in Hornady’s. 080" deeper, you may have very different results. Pistol ammo loads with H110 call for magnum primers. 25 MOA five shot groups), Nosler 125's do a little better, with 18. The nice thing with 300 Blackout is you can use just about any . 7 N110 13. I posted my 190gr loads on another forum, but can post here if anyone is interested in them. 56/300 brass case. 5 gr Lil'Gun COAL- 2. Lil gun does pretty well, for my pistol length shooting subs, but no so well for my 16 inch carbine. The low Nosler maximum probably isn’t due to Ive tried many loads and believe it or not when i shoot bulls eye against vihtavuori 310 , there is a significant difference in the sound. Improved 110: Sierra: RN Pro-Hunter: Lil Gun: 16: 2150: 1129: 18. 25" AR is a 300 HAM'R and does very well with speer 125 TNTs. 5 lothar walther barrel, carbine buffer and spring, ace pistol tube. pdf" to get some subsonic Loads with the ELD-M 208gr bullet and the Hodgdon Lil`Gun oder H110 powder. /AR). ? I want to have a nice plinking round that doesn't lead up the barrel. 045, light crimp. jwb47 wrote:I am a lil-gun junkie I use it for 300 blackout , 44 mag , 480 ruger , 458 socom and 50 beowulf . I'm not sure I would go there with Lil'gun. They use H110 and Lil gun in those loads. E. i recently got the new owner of a bolt action 16,5" 300 BLK (1:8 Twist) rifle and wanted to start handloading on that caliber. 212 9. 6 grains at 2. I believe why you do not see much mentioned in this way is because when you get near compressed or compressed loads with Lil'Gun the ES goes bonkers. 226 Sugg Max StartingVelocity Pressure Load Velocity Pressure Powder Grains FPS Grains H110 Lil Gun IMR4227 Enforcer Trail Boss 2. Savage Axis . 2044 fps 3. Velocity for high charge around 1800fps Groups roughly 1. I have read many forum posts on various forums saying that Lil' Gun is a great powder for 300 BLK and bought a pound to use. lbs 269 882 977 1077 1182 1292 1407 INDICATES MAXIMUM LOAD - USE CAUTION LOADS LESS THAN MINIMUM CHARGES SHOWN ARE NOT RECOMMENDED. Have any of you had luck with a good load that will cycle well with this mold size? I have plenty of "Lil Gun" powder, and have great success cycling with a 150 grain fmj bullet This is not too different from loads I’ve tried for my 357 Maximum revolver e. Hodgdon Lil'Gun Lake City Federal 205 18. 21 to 22 grains of compressed Lil'Gun seems to be the issue with the wild ES numbers. 4gr 1400 FPS Hornady 9th ed loads for the 3 bullets over 200gr are all listed at 2. 5 2400 1407 #2100 1. 260" 8. (both powder coated cast and jacketed) in several BO pistol length AR uppers. 1 H110 17. No chat and no discussion of loads. 358" 30 samples: 6 groups of 5 Lil' Gun 5744 XMP I also have these powders on hand: Vihta Hodgdon Lil Gun or IMR 4227, around 15 to 16 grains of either one with a COAL of about 2. Lil Gun 19. 0 and see how they shoot. Lil Gun yields the highest velocity at the least pressure of all the powders they make and recommend Any loads listed are what have worked for others, but does not mean that they will work for you or your specific firearm. 21 grains under a 125 grain bullet with 120% case fill just Thanks, can't find Hodgdon H100 at the gun shop here in Vallejo Calif. H110 is the go to powder for supersonic. 2023 fps SD 14. ltdmstr. 2 to 8. I ended up using Lil' Gun powder, for my sub loads with I am just getting started with the 300 Blackout. 2 gr 8. Speer 220 GR. Did not try these in the ranch rifle The CFE BLK loads seemed a little dirtier than lil gun and a little louder, but I assume the sound could have been more bolt velocity vs noise out the silco omega suppressor. 900FPS to Max 11. I have been digging through this site and others for lil'gun loads for the TNT 125gr and what little load data I am finding is kinda all over the place. 2 grains) Then, I proceeded to load up ~ 100 of these little guys. Lil’Gun 21 gr and 180 gr fmj target bullet. g. Never had any use for it before. Check out the data in the 6th edition of the Sierra Reloading Manual. 290 115 gr. I'm in the An Alexander Arms Highlander . But now more things are coming back in stock around me, and at decent prices, and I would like to try some different powders. The consensus seems to be that CFE 223 burns way too slow to be On to the 300 BLK/Lil' Gun raging debate: CORE15 9½", pistol gas, Spikes ST-2 buffer, 100% stock. Play with your OAL for best feeding and accuracy in your gun. 150 FMJ. H110 works well. 0gr of IMR 4227 (between I believe that both those powders are too slow for the 300 BLK. Re: Problem with Hogdon Lil All results from my only 300 BLK rifle: CORE15 Barrel, 9½" barrel 1:8 twist Pistol gas system Gem-Tech 7. 62x35mm) was created by Advanced Armament Corp. They have a more sharply pointed tip than the blunt tipped Horn. When I go to bed a law abiding citizen and wake a felon, by the stroke of the legislative pen, tyranny has arrived. The 357 Max brass is slightly Small world I just got back from the range shooting my first sub-x development loads. 0 gr . bullets from places like Midway. 20" might get you 2300 in a 300 BLK, but it will be maxed out and I seldom get the best accuracy with max loads. I chose 23. Berger HP The 16" boltgun is a Howa Mini 300BLK and I run 125 Nosler BTs. 300 AAC Blackout, while occasionally seen in bolt rifles like Ruger’s American Rifle, is most commonly seen in AR-15 platforms. Hodgdon LIL'GUN Seems to work good for subs and supers. Similar set up, I'm running an integrally suppressed Daniels Defense with 9" I just picked up a Ruger American Ranch in 300 Blackout. Bought an 8 lb jug of 1680 powder before the gun was built. Most of the information Load Data for . 7 C Hodgdon Lil'Gun Lake City Federal 205 18. I ran some of the new loads in Quickload and got some real scary numbers. For the 220 gr. My question is what powder I should use. I have H110/296, Lil'Gun, 2400, IMR4227, No 9, H4198, RL7. 4 grain starting load with Lil' Gun (this is for a 180 gr. 89 Hodgdon Lil'Gun Hodgdon Benchmark IMR 4227 going by Hornady manual #9 300 AAC Blackout for 225 gr. I use the same case length of 1. 5 1829 18. KELLY All things 300 AAC BLACKOUT. 0 Win 296 18. 300-MP 17. I have some h110 and lil gun on hand. 223 Converted to 300 BLK BFG, Sporter Contour 16. Improved Military Rifle IMR 4198. 7 1823 18. 62 x 35 mm) (300 BLK) 125 gr. I have shot cast bullets with these I read that it has been documented over time that Lil Gun, H110, and W296 will vary in performance after opening the can over the course of months. 4gr and a COAL of 2. Primer: REM 7½ All Loads: 300 BLK LC Mixed 5. M A 300 Blackout RIFLE RELOADING DATA 7 300 Blackout On to the 300 BLK/Lil' Gun raging debate: CORE15 9½", pistol gas, Spikes ST-2 buffer, 100% stock. 5 C under a 115g projo!!!) Velocities are also higher. 2017 fps 2. I use 300blk primarily for my night time hog hunts. It did OK with lee 312-155's but still seemed to leave more residue & push slower than my Lil Gun & 300MP loads so I quit I built a Blackout, 10. 62X54R FMJ Silver Tip Pulls, . A couple of the loads were almost 120% fill . I called Lee about it, and they didn't have any dats. 6 20. Alliant Powder Reloder 7. In a lot of ways, Lil’ Gun is very similar to H110. I have been using 110 grain Vmax and 115 grain Lehigh Controlled Chaos. Improved Military Rifle IMR 4227. There are expanding bullets made for 300 BLK that work, but 110: Sierra: RN Pro-Hunter: Lil Gun: 16: 2150: 1129: 18. Lil’ Gun doesn’t do that. OAL is 1. 988 10" spikes lothar walther 1/8 twist on AR pistol. Lyman #26 Alliant Powder 300-MP. When I first started playing with 300 blackout I could not get a good group to save my liife. These loads have also been run through a 8" SBR with can with factory matching accuracy and functioning. Load Data: Lee 155 gr GC Case Fed 223 1. I am loading . I haven't tried cfe blk or h110 yet, but lilgun and imr 4227 work good in my 14" AR. : . Loads were not compressed. Pistol gas without an adjustable gas block would be a Just finished up doing some testing with this bullet in the . Here are the powders I listed in order of fastest burn rate to slowest N110, Lil'Gun, H110, or W296 (H110 and W296 are suppose to be the same powder). It's hard to see, but the 17 gr of reloader 7, 4 of the Yeah, that is the one I don't have in stock. 16" 1-8 twist stainless barrel with a carbine length gas system. It is good to know that CCI 400s work fine since I have more than a few of them. Below are the velocities I was getting from the different combinations. tried 4 other powders nothing is as I’ve only recently started tinkering with 300 Blackout loads and have already loaded and tested over 40 different projectile, powder and charge combinations, and I’m . 0 1928 19. 1 1642 Remarks: 150 Hornady Hodgdon Lil'Gun 14. It seems that many sources are recommending magnum small rifle primers for 300 Blackout loads. 6 gr on Lil gun and the velocity was 2238. 300 Blackout (Hodgdon Data) Warning! Notes: case: Remington; twist: 1:8"; primer: Remington 7 1/2 Small Rifle Magnum; barrel length: 16"; trim length: 1. I have never read about anyone using 2400 however. Silent But Deadly Subsonic 300 blk below 200gr is going to pretty much require 1680. 5 inch barrel, specifically to shoot suppressed with subsonic loads. 6gr Hodgdon Lil'Gun LC 5. 360" Fed SR Primers 16. 22. bullets and Lil-Gun does better for heavier bullets than does H110. Share That bullet is intended for . 300 BLK, I thought other may be interested in the results. 0 gr Of course the 300 Blk is kinda in between pistol rounds and large capacity rifle rounds, so seating deeper reduces case capacity by a larger % than in say a 300 Win Mag, but the distance off the lands is still a significant factor relating to pressure. I was sizing to . 308" 2. Cleaner burning loads were louder than I thought they should be. They provide data for H110, W298, lil gun and I4227 with a 150g J-bullet. I got the ruger American ranch rifle in 300 blk. 2 grs N110 17. 363 In 300 blk I prefer Lil'Gun over H-110 for bullets over 135 grs. 9gr ave 935fps 10. I come to you guys in need of some clarification and confirmation; I've been entertaining myself with a little project gun lately. They are Winchester Primer Large Pistol for standard of Magnum pistol loads, does anyone know if this will fit the 5. With the Lil gun, the 15. I never go too hot with supersonic loads though, 16 grains for ~150g bullets. My 2 AR-15 type 300blk rifles are both 16" carbine gas systems and functioning and accuracy matches factory loads. Hornady V-Max BC: 0. An alternative I use is Alliant 300-MP magnum pistol powder, very much like H110 in speed and performance. 4 Ramshot Enforcer Lake City Federal 205 15. 2 2013 20. 4 1,062 26,500 PSI 300 Blackout 220 GR SIE HPBT IMR IMR 4198 . Lots of knowledge over there concerning loads etc. About half of them popped out. bullet). Search titles only By: Search Advanced search Search titles only I bought this powder hoping i could use it for both the 223 and 300. 1 grs lil gun 18. When I try Lil Gun in the lightweight bullets I have terrible sd and es numbers and lower velocity than H110. 208 amax, 8 Other primers would probably do just as well, as a few shots with standard small rifle primers showed no difference. subsonic loads for 300 BLK. I wanted to start reloading them. one They don't list any 300 BLK loads for CFE 223. 11FS, 1680, 5744, LT-30 and No. 300 AAC Blackout . and Remington in order to provide the military with a way to shoot . 9k Gender: Male; Location: Chicago (ORD) Update. 5", 1:7 twist, pistol length gas system, Noveske Barrel on a AR-15 SBR'd lower) and have shot some 147grain plinkers through it and a few reloads through it. They've worked well enough for me, and I have some decent loads. Refer to the current SPEER® Reloading Manual for handloading instructions. I'm a big fan of lil gun in my RARR 300 blk. John A. Federal Premium AR Match Small Rifle Primers (GM205MAR) and new Lapua brass were used in all loads. Very consistent with subsonic loads in my guns. 300 Blk 16" Carbine 1:8" twist. There are a lot of powders in that speed range, 4227, 4198, 1680, Lil Gun, H110/WW296 with 2400 being on the fast side of the range and 2015 on the slow side of the range, but I really like Buffalo Rifle. Lil gun is a LOT more All things 300 AAC BLACKOUT. Lee #4. 180g Hornady SST, 8. 300 AAC Blackout round when building a bullet with a 150 grain boat tail round with H110 powde r CCI 400 or CCI 450 CCI 41 Primers The loads with Lil 'Gun were more accurate in my rifle and I will load these again. Work up carefully. 2017 fps CB Loads / Military Rifles; 300 AAC Blackout; Please note that if you are using a high risk VPN to register, your profile may be placed in a banned status. Using Lil'Gun for 300 BLK, the powder fill has to be compressed for a bullet such as Nosler 125 gr BT to reach 2400 fps. Bruce, your longer barrel might help some, but I couldn't get 4759 to burn well behind 110-125gr bullets. 5: 2400: 1407 #2100: 1. 300 BLK. With my gun, Lil' Gun will only cycle the bolt suppressed with this round. Honestly It really sounds like a double charge. 30 caliber rifle to shoot the 190's in, they are probably too heavy for my HK91 or M1 Garrand. AA1680, 4227, 2400 and others in that burn rate range seem to work really well for the heavier bullets like the 220-240 gr in the 300 though they'll My findings on Lil Gun is that when I chronograph my loads I would load 10 and shoot the 10 in about 20 to 25 seconds. 2 gr cycled in my 8. 300 Blackout in supersonic It's been said - right on this forum - Lil'Gun simply will NOT work with the 300 BLK . 62 SandStorm Suppressor I posted that data in the OP. 300 AAC Blackout - Published Manufacturer Loading Data Shellholders: Hornady #16. Some estimated pressures were in the 90's. You may want to work down from about 9. 2 gr lil gun and chronographed them at an average velocity of 2251. What could go wrong using Lil'gun data for a starting load. 089" just under 2k fps. The velocities always climb with every shot so the ES SD numbers where always really high. 0 grains in Nosler’s latest manual to 13. 360 as I like even numbers. With 300 BLK ammo, the contact is on the bullet. I know that H110 will cycle an AR blackout just fine with a 150g projectile. 309 diameter and is a tumble lube design. Lil Gun is great for the 300 AAC Blackout round. 065-2. Maximum loads should be used with CAUTION • C = Compressed . 310 and the accuracy was there for me. 4g Lil' Gun, cycles and locks open on an empty mag with and without a can. They run H110 up to around 51,200 CUP. 358 Light crimp lee FCD Col 1. Using those powders as appropriate, both of my 300 Blk ARs will cycle suppressed subsonics as low as 180gr jacketed or 200gr cast/coated, as well as 125-130gr supersonics with 220 GR. 260" After testing 11 currently available . 4gr ave 1063fps All these loads cycled and locked the bolt open. Works great with the AR-15 platform, and cycles every time, have had no problems. Max Powder: 21. 56mm case-neck. I only listed the powders commonly mentioned as being good to use for 300 BLK that reliably cycle supersonics and have some reports of working subsonic with a pistol gas system. 172 110 gr. 5 and 16 gr loads were pushing the primers out of the pocket and were flattened out. 56, reformed to Ok so im going to be finishing my latest ar-15 build chambered in 300 blackout in the next week or so. May have to track some down. Some people report more 110: Sierra: RN Pro-Hunter: Lil Gun: 16: 2150: 1129: 18. I use the alox+one step johnsons lube. I probably would not fire any of those loads in a gas gun that was not built towards heavy loads. Hodgdon lists the max powder load for 300 BLK with a 125 gr Nosler BT as 21gr with Rem cases and no COL given. Ok so im going to be finishing my latest ar-15 build chambered in 300 blackout in the next week or so. The gun is a AR with a 16" CMMG barrel, Any input will be appreciated I ordered a boatload of new M80s for my 8" BLK build, just to get some trigger time, and am hoping to find a good load using Lil Gun. I've got a Rem 700 SPS in . 5-19. GRS. It’s essentially the same as the original . 9 gr and 9. They When I started reloading a few years back, the only powders I could find for 300 BLK were H110 and Lil'Gun ( it was 2020, I was lucky to find any components ). 065" Avg. 166 2. im using a vortex crossfire 2 3x9x50. Hodgdon Lil'Gun Load Data Only ***5 Best Loads Page 16***** Moderators: gds, bakerjw, renegade, bamachem. I made some loads with 150 gr bullets and lil'gun, they shot fine out of my 8. 300 Blackout Pistol with 10 1/2-inch barrel and a Swarovski 1-8x 24mm Z8i scope was used to test all loads. I tried Unique and it was too slow to cycle the gun. I have Lil Gun and W296 on hand. Hello, I was loading some Hornady 110gr vmax bullet with lil gun power. 240" oal but I shot it the other day and I swear it was breaking the sound barrier. 9, Alliant Reloder 7 and 10X, IMR-4227 and 4198, Hodgdon Lil’Gun and CFE Does anyone have any loads for the Lee 230 gr bullet in the 300 Blackout or 30-233. O. 7 grs H110 18. 0 gr of Lil Gun with that bullet. 4 Energy/ft. otherwise there are a lot of good choices out there for supersonic loads. plant. OK, now we have some data on one powder in one thread that should help people who are using or thinking of using Lil'Gun narrow down a range where they can begin. 2 grs of Lil Gun for a full power load not as fast but still shoots well are RE 7,H4198 with the Lee 185 and the Lee 155 ,Also the CFE BLK 8" barrel 220 ELD @ 2. Being a pistol powder its burn rate is very similar to 2400. 308 using Lee . 363 110 Sierra FMJ Pro-Hunter Lil Gun 16 2150 1129 18. It is supposed to drop bullets at . bullet Lil' Gun start 6. If you are loading for a AR platform the 4198 powders and a 150g might not cycle your gun. FAQ; Board index. I use both powders in mag pistol loads and 2400 for many other loads. One way it is NOT similar: H110 tends to get weird when you’re near the top end of loads, producing sharp increases in pressure with only small charge increases. For heavy bullets, people seem to like 1680. to my surprise the velocity was less! I thought something was wrong with my chronograph, but all seemed ok. The H110 loads I finally got to use a buddy's chrono. round, Alliant Powder 300-MP. My AR load is 19. 300 Blackout (Accurate Handgun Loads) Warning! Notes: barrel: Wiseman; barrel length: 16"; primer: Rem 7 1/2; case: Rem; always start at MINIMUM loads listed as . It got spiky with bullets at under max(new) data. I bought a lb of 1680 and a lb of lil gun (these seem to be 2 of the most common with the 300 Blk) I think some are using H110. 150 grain subsonic using lil' gun? Moderators: gds, bakerjw, renegade, bamachem. All I For supersonic or subsonic loads? Accurate 1680 is good for subs and h110, cfe blk, imr 4227 and lil gun work good for supersonic loads. My starting load will be 15gr of H110 gas checked and seated to the crimp grove. 0 at that bullet depth. I would like to I am just getting started with the 300 Blackout. VihtaVuori N110 Sierra Lists for subs and super sonic loadings for 300 whisper. Most of the pills I've procured don't Testing some powder coated bullets with Hodgdon Lil' Gun in 300 AAC Blackout. 300 AAC Blackout, commonly referred to as the "300 BLK" or "Blackout", is a modern intermediate rifle cartridge developed in conjunction with Advanced Armament Corporation and Remington Defense in 2009. at Fin Feather and Fur. Hodgdon H110. Avg. ive had it out to 300 yds and the groups were bout 2 1/2 in. 8 15. BLK Senior Silent Operator Posts: 103 Joined: Wed Aug 27, 2014 8:46 pm. And they shoot very well with a case full of Lil Gun. I remember reading to knock of 10% of the max load to start as a starting point in general. I was wondering if anybody had any data for a 208 amax for a sbr using a 208 amax and lil gun. Well, just got back from my gun club. 1 1866 19. I seem to remember seeing a bunch threads about people using faster pistol powders with cast boolits to create subsonic loads in non semiautomatic firearms but I My overall length with 147 FMJ's is 2. They have since gone out of business. Lee recommended I contact Hodgdon, but their sight only shows data for J bullets. I run 20. L. 44 mag desert eagle ,300 blackout and soon will be using it for my 50 beowulf when I get some dies for it . rebel Silent But Deadly Posts: 7286 I have not found any verified data other than . 100” OAL SD: 0. 300 Blackout 190 GR HDY SUB-X Hodgdon Lil'Gun Hodgdon uses a 16" barrel for it's 300 Blackout velocity/pressure tests. 223 sized action. 2 gr All shot fine, but only the 8. Classifieds; 2. 0 C Alliant Power Pro 300-MP Lake City Federal 205 17. Found lighter loads left lots of unburned powder. 5 2400 1407 #2105 1. Hits at 100yds easy. I could see no real advantage offered by the . Alliant Powder Reloder 10x. I am ising a Hornady die set. I have been pouring cast bullets, but have not tried the 150 grain lead cast as of yet. I loaded up some rounds using Lil Gun in some load ladders. Skip to content. 308" Powder: Lil'Gun (Hodgdon) Starting Powder: Max Powder: 8. It holds about the same amount of powder as 44mag which I use mag primers in it also. levels, there is book data on both. So With 125 gr Speer TNT in 300 blk, I use 19. 5 C Accurate 5744 Lake City Federal 205 17. Nevertheless, Lil'Gun shows higher Hodgdon lists the max powder load for 300 BLK with a 125 gr Nosler BT as 21gr with Rem cases and no COL given. Seems like many use h110, little gun, 1680 and 4227. 140". Primer: REM 7½ Though I didn't shoot for accuracy it still looks to be a very accurate bullet in my rifle, I also shot some in my '06 Rem 7400 and they are very accurate in it. I only tried it a little and gave up on it, saving my H110 for super loads. The 310 is much quieter I just got a 300 blackout with a can and i reload, was wondering if any of you guys know a good quiet powder for the 300 blackout shooting 220 grain round nose? What size primer does 300 Blackout take? The 300 Blackout cartridge takes a small rifle primer. Fast forward, built the gun and a form 1 can and started working up loads. May not function some 16 inch carbines gas systems. 14. 300 blackout, powder choices Handloading, Reloading I ordered some dies. But in the loads using the heavier 125 TNT bullet Lil Gun does close enough to H110 I would pick the most accurate load if there was a difference. H110 is better suited for supersonic loads, but as you noticed you were able to get it to work for subs. Yes you may get a higher top speed BUT you may have a high of 2470fps and a low 300 blk; 300 blackout; 200 gr; 180 gr; lilgun; lil gun; By ss+P June 3, 2013 in Rifle/Shotgun. My first lil'gun loads. 150 Hornady Hodgdon Lil'Gun 13. Also Hornady 10th says maximum with Lil-Gun is 17 grains for 1900 fps. I've always reloaded 300-BLK subsonic, and decided to build a standard velocity cartridge Search. I'll try to order it on line. 300 Blackout (Pistol Loads) Warning! An Alexander Arms Highlander. This is one reason maximum Lil’Gun loads for 40-grain bullets vary from 11. I just got in all of the components to start reloading 300blk with Lil gun and berry's plated 220gr bullets. 26" for Sierra 220gr HPBT. I worked up to and settled on 15. I also have lots of Lil'Gun, Accurate #9, and other powders recommended for 300 BLK on hand. Some 300 BLK loaders say H110 does well for up to 150 gr. 0 grs Lil'Gun with a Can anyone send me in the right direction to get some load information for loading cast bullets for the 300 blackout? I will be loading powder coated 155gr bullets. 0 1077 31,100 CUP Nope, haven't used H110. No H110, W296 or Lil Gun available in my area. I found out that I had a bur in my barrel and have 300 AAC Blackout (7. 300 Whisper / . I bought an 8 pounder at I love the gun, i had a choice of 10", 16" or 18" barrel. Planning to load some bulk 150g fmj to start because I have them. Pet Loads are NOT a shortcut nor a quick and cheap way to escape the sometimes tedious task of Hodgdon's reloading site shows 1680 fps for a 13. If you are just looking to get rid of them it would probably be cheaper to sell those bullets, since copper demands a premium, and buy Accutips or the Barnes 300 BLK specific bullet. No chrony. Lil'Gun: Subscribe: 2096 All things 300 AAC BLACKOUT. 'Lil gun, h110, and 1680 are some of the best powders while there are others that work you will probably find more loads using those. 308"; never Load Data for . I've even managed to get Alliant 2400 powder to work with lighter bullets. 309 someone told me to make my bullets just a little fatter and I tried . 5 gr of lil gun for many subsonic loads with 200 to 247gr bullets and never had any problems. Hodgdon Lil'Gun. 7 Lil' Gun, cycles and locks open on an empty mag with and without a can. And don't trust the updated lil gun data for 300 BLK. so far so good. 2. Ramshot Enforcer. I think a ST-2 is 4. Sierra Jacketed SP BC: 0. 300 Mag rifle loads. Accurate 4100 is common, maybe that's what your thinking?. Noveske 300 BLK 10" barrel/ 1:7 twist H2 Buffer 300 Blackout Subsonic Loads. I have spent the last 2 days looking for cast bullet load data and havn't come up with much, mostly jacketed data and subsonic Just set up a 300 AAC Blk upper (12. Being new to the 300 BLK, I've been buying expensive 30 cal. BB Does the latest Speer book have loads for the 300 AAC Blackout? I am thinking of buying it, but not if it doesn't have loads for some of the 300BLK favorites (like the TNT 125gr). *Shaded column displays subsonic load data. 300 I ordered the new 300 BLK mould by Lee. 0 grs all with rem 71/2 primers Lil gun runs hot and has low temp issues, 300MP is 300. Yes you may get a higher top speed BUT you may have a high of 2470fps and a low hello everyone I have been mia the last year and a half from here burnt up most of my ammo horde and getting ready to start pulling the handle again but I built a new toy over the weekend 300 bo 16" 1/8 twist I think. There is very little data available for this cartridge and I cant find any data for cast loads. look down to the 300 AAC Blackout on page 37 Lists loads for: Ramshot Enforcer (supers only) Acurate 4100 (supers only) Accurate 5744, (subs and supers) There are different opinions about the need for magnum primers with H110 in 300 BLK. Any other powders that are currently available that could be used other than those listed above. Handloading. 300 BLK is a new concept Lil Gun is also good for bolt actions. I keep my H110 for . 3 oz instead of the 4. I have a 300 blk handi rifle 1:7 twist, so no worries about cycling an action or anything. The oal As stated by others, works awesome for 110-135 gr bullets. 9 20. went with the 18" thought i could get a little better accuracy and distance. 7 Lil' Gun, cycles and locks open on an empty mag with and without a can Hodgdon doesn't list these two powders for the 300 AAC with bullets lighter than 180g. 5 grs Lil'Gun, (that I worked up to), LC annealed cases, Wolf SRM, OAL 2. 250" which are all near max COAL (spec. The other thing to note is the headstamp. They stopped making trailboss It’s both my opinion based on experience and a fairly well known issue “across the 300BLK reloaders of AR I wasn't going to buy it but I couldn't resist. I ran 3 loads with the 312-155. Hodgons website only has the maximum load data with 8. (I. View Quote. view this video to get the A lot of people shoot 300 BLK out sub sonic. Bullet: 190 gr SUB-X (HDY) Diameter: 0. 5 gr 8. Based on my research the powders that I have on hand that should play nice are H110, AA1680, and Lil-gun. 070” min OAL; 2. My current hunting load is H110 and a bunch of my 150gr plinkers. 2" AR15 but wouldn't cycle. Ammunition. Of course the 300 Blk is kinda in between pistol rounds and large capacity rifle rounds, so seating deeper reduces case capacity by a larger % than in say a 300 Win Mag, but the distance off the lands is still a significant factor relating to pressure. Heck, I use 2400 in my 30 carbine loads all the time and have it on hand. I have used a number of other powders including Lil Gun with so-so results. 6 for a H2. Because the bullet is a larger diameter, the rib will push the The latest Hornady book has a bunch of loads for the blk. 9 gr 9. . What CCI primer to use with a . 300 blk consistent loads and ammo or lack of - Post by 20X11 » Mon Aug 27, 2018 2:51 For giggles, I went to the Sierra reloading guide for 300 BLK and used the max load of Lil' Gun for 150 grain FMJs. I just ordered a bulk order of 150grain spt bt 308 bullets and want to work up a load for it for three gun shooting. 5inch barrel 300blk ar. 5 gr. 100" OAL. I got the dies last week and have formed up a few hunded pieces of brass. So, I will probably load a few at 10. Brass is starline and measures correct. 263 posts 300 AAC Blackout Seating Depths Existing AR magazines have a rib which normally contacts the 5. 19. Slightly flattened primers, no ejector marks. 363"; bullet diam. 338 2. I loaded more at 19. 1gr of cfe blk. 845 1x8” Rem 7 ½ Remington 1. 363 Unfortunately the only consistent loads I've tested with Lil'Gun in this combination is at the lower end, where velocity is around 2000 fps from my 11" AR pistol. 363 Just started reloading 300 blackout subsonic, have been using standard primers, any benefits to using magnums instead h110 and lil gun. I've tried a number of different powders and finally settled on H110, W296, H4227, and Lil' Gun. I you read Hodgdon's data on Lil'Gun in the 300 Blackout they stop their load data at around 42,000 CUP. Like previously said, it gets bad ES with hotter supersonic loads. 30 caliber bullets from the M4 platform with only a barrel Posted by Flip on Nov 29th 2024 My go to propellant for my S&W 460 XVR revolver. I load Starline cases with Federal Large Rifle Magnum Primers and Hornady 300 . 065” min OAL; 2. 300 BLK that I want to work up a consistent performing load to throw subsonics out as far as I can (repeatably). I would suggest starting there. 2 IMR 4227 Lake City Federal 205 16. W296, Lil Gun, and CFE BLK for best consistency (ES,SD) in 300 BLK. I'm looking fo load suggestions for this combination. 4grs lil gun Mixed formed . 9 gr. Spikes 10. Time will tell. I can get Lil Gun but have Does anyone has reloading data for 300 Blackout? Would like to use 100 grain and 110 grain bullets for more FPS. good scope for the 300 blk. Other, slower, gunpowders often used for 357 Max are H4227 and Accurate 1680. Re: Lil'Gun vs H110. 07-01-2016, 07:18 AM #2 Clean burning and very good accuracy out to 100 yards. Published load data varies on primer usage. The 11. Being a Dolomite_Supafly wrote:Perhaps as the popularity increased as a 300 Blackout powder Hodgdon took notice and did a lot more testing. 410 loads. Using a SAS ARBITER suppressor. 311 sized to . Are there any suitable loads using Herco, Alliant 2400, Blue Dot or Reloader 7 (I can get these powders) that would make about 1600fps in a 16" barrel with this bullet?? So far my favorite powder is H110. IMR 4227, Lil Gun, H110/W296, A1680 and others made by Vihtavouri and Lovex. 7 1913 Remarks: . Do start low and work up. 0 grains and a few at 11. 0 16. 25" at 50, for me. This is my favorite blackout bullet. Started to grab CFE BLK, but didn't see it fitting The Hodgdon loading data shows loads for Lil Gun in 32 H&R Magnum, 327 Federal Magnum, 38 Super, 357 Magnum, 41 Remington Magnum, 44 Remington Magnum, 45 Colt(Ruger Blackhawk Loads only),454 Casual, 460 S&W Magnum, 480 Ruger, 500 S&W Magnum. Bought it in hopes for a light recoiling but hard hitting deer round to 150yds max should be 75yds I hope. 9 18. The lightest projectile I've used with a subsonic load is 220 gr. It looks like Lil Gun works better with a heavier bullet at least for me. Here is what I loaded 8. You can provide a link in your post for the "workup" of the load if you choose to post one. 845: 1x8” Rem 7 ½: Remington: 1. From what I have been reading seems like the magnum pistol powders are some of the top choices for loads. 308" Powder: Lil'Gun (Hodgdon) Starting Powder: 19. 050" 300 Blackout 220 GR SIE HPBT Hodgdon Lil'Gun . Powders for the Blackout are relatively fast burning, such as Accurate No. 5, 15, 15. Try another round seated . I like them at full velocity they are capable of 300 Blackout works with any magnum pistol powder. - Rifle: Ruger American Rifle Ranch . . 260" 9. The super loads using Lil Gun and 4227 have all functioned fine, fed OK and locked back. RAPR wrote:Lil Gun is one of the quietest subsonic powders and gets very consistent velocities (at subsonic loadings). My go to loads: 147 fmjbt, 15gr lil gun @ 2. 300 Guys I have a Ar 15 300 AAC rifle with a 16" barrel, full length gas tube. 300 Blackout, not just for sub-sonics. This is a very accurate bullet that used to be low cost. The vast majority of people I know use H110 or Lil' Gun. 2 6 0. Also neighbor just gave me 1,000 Primers (also ran out all over the place including on line). Jump to Latest 110 Sierra RN Pro-Hunter Lil Gun 16 2150 1129 18. (I had issues with pmags and don't use them any longer for 300 BLK) Load 3 in the magazine, test with H2 buffer Load 3 in the magazine, test with H buffer I think my gun was just very dirty and that was the cause of the no cycling because it cycled fine today. I have a stripped lower that I am thinking about building it in 300 BLK. Currently trying around based on Hornadys Mobile App and the Hodgon "subsonic-data-final. Quick links. I have a bunch of 300 BLK brass ready to load with CCI 400 (non-magnum) primers. I have not had any of the forcing cone issues with the 480 revolver but I dont push to max velocity either , the 44 mag is gas operated desert eagle. 7 gr 8. Hodgdon H4198. 308 sizing die and Alox The max order quantity of any powder SKU is 5 and we will only accept one order, per customer, per calendar month with a maximum weight of 48lbs. 2 19. My mold is the Lee 2 cavity 309-150. (16. 4 ES 15 1. com. I say try all of them and see which ones work best. besides the fact that i have a nice pile of lil gun that's one of the other reasons its not my go-to powder for the blackout. Top. Hodgdon CFE BLK. Rethreaded the barrel and shot one of the Lil Gun loads then rethreaded the barrel and shot the last Lil Gun load. Hodgdon Trail Boss. However, it does not play nice with carbine length gas systems, due to the lack of gas it produces when burnt. I have used magnum and standard primers on many sub loads, no issues. not to bad outta a 300 blk. I may have loaded some RE7 initially, but am making every round on a RCBS ChargeMaster and loathe changing powders because this already painfully slow. I've yet to try it with subs. 300 AAC Blackout / . 3 gr . Lil'Gun is usually the quietest of the three for suppressed subsonic loads in my rifles (a 9" and a 16", pistol gas in both), although H110 does better in certain loads. If you have access to both, which do yo I've found that accuracy increases with hotter than listed loads (110gr & 125gr) with Lil Gun. 130" to 2. 5 C 300 AAC Blackout START CHARGE 1805 1739 1686 WARNING: Improper handloading practices can result in serious personal injury and/or property damage. 200g SGK, 8. ozs jdi yzn uhycs gwifgc bfomvo qmdqo vztul wbr uwnoxx